Curse

FengShuiDove · May 07, 2009, 07:05 AM // 07:05

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Originally Posted by Chocobo1

Wow a Zoo and some stylists. Gee, they really outdid themselves.
Also, it only affected PvE, PvP is the heart of this game and it constantly gets ignored.

Ignoring things is fuuuun.

PvP is the heart of this game? That sounds like a moderately biased opinion. PvP balance might be the heart of the overwhelming proportion of skill updates themselves but it's been beaten to death how many players play PvE vs. how many play PvP. Also, Guild Wars is not divided into PvP and PvE definitively as so many people around here seem to think it is. The game as a whole must be updated and improved for better gameplay overall. Sorry that the vocal minority was displeased with the major update. Don't try to minimize the magnitude of the update just because you didn't get your toy.

Maybe it gets constantly ignored because there's no way of pleasing the PvP crowd. Ever thought of that after countless updates have been criticized to death and cried about incessantly?

And here, if you think otherwise, I'll link this post to a QQ thread about the May balances that will inevitably arise seconds after the skill updates are released.

Winterclaw · May 07, 2009, 07:33 AM // 07:33

Hurray. We have to wait another week so we can learn what skill or three has been minorly tweaked and which dozens of neglected skills have been ignored yet again.

distilledwill · May 07, 2009, 07:34 AM // 07:34

Ok, well thanks for the heads up. I'm inclined to be understanding as the content update was impressive, nonetheless, this is a bit long to let the meta go completely stale. Anyone else sick of: W/A, W/Rt, R/mo, Me/Mo, N/A, Mo/E, Mo/E, E/Rt?

savage vapor 33 · May 07, 2009, 07:49 AM // 07:49

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Originally Posted by distilledwill

Ok, well thanks for the heads up. I'm inclined to be understanding as the content update was impressive, nonetheless, this is a bit long to let the meta go completely stale. Anyone else sick of: W/A, W/Rt, R/mo, Me/Mo, N/A, Mo/E, Mo/E, E/Rt?

Whats that build?

legacyofkain85 · May 07, 2009, 07:55 AM // 07:55

when i saw the title of the thread ,i thought the skill update already went online (while i was sleeping) and this was a discussion thread about the update,silly me.

superraptors · May 07, 2009, 08:13 AM // 08:13

pnh, linger and strengh and honor is definitely getting nerfed in pvp

Deimos Zargarda · May 07, 2009, 08:29 AM // 08:29

The longer the wait, the better it gets, so I hope.

Apollo Smile · May 07, 2009, 08:53 AM // 08:53

OH BOY a complain about the skill update thread before we even get it!

aapo · May 07, 2009, 08:58 AM // 08:58

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Originally Posted by Hi I'm Regem

Right now they are putting a bunch of un-used skills on a dartboard taking turns throwing darts to see what the next super broken buff is going to be.

1. Should they make the update, yes or no?
2. Should they put time in making the update, yes or no?

If I was the guy working at ANET, I wouldn't spend a minute to help this pitiful community.

Professor K · May 07, 2009, 09:04 AM // 09:04

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Originally Posted by aapo

1. Should they make the update, yes or no?
2. Should they put time in making the update, yes or no?

If I was the guy working at ANET, I wouldn't spend a minute to help this pitiful community.

The microtransactions fad is over. Now the trolls need something else to whine about! Just keep in mind its just the guru community that is pathetic. Fortunately guru doesn't represent the entire games community.

Chocobo1 · May 07, 2009, 09:05 AM // 09:05

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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

PvP is the heart of this game? That sounds like a moderately biased opinion. PvP balance might be the heart of the overwhelming proportion of skill updates themselves but it's been beaten to death how many players play PvE vs. how many play PvP. Also, Guild Wars is not divided into PvP and PvE definitively as so many people around here seem to think it is. The game as a whole must be updated and improved for better gameplay overall. Sorry that the vocal minority was displeased with the major update. Don't try to minimize the magnitude of the update just because you didn't get your toy.

Maybe it gets constantly ignored because there's no way of pleasing the PvP crowd. Ever thought of that after countless updates have been criticized to death and cried about incessantly?

And here, if you think otherwise, I'll link this post to a QQ thread about the May balances that will inevitably arise seconds after the skill updates are released.

Maybe because you can't please the PvP crowd by putting in overpowered skills and invincible mode? PvE is terribly unbalanced, no one complains though. Why? Because it works in your favor. Easy ectos and no skill required builds. Lucky for you, AI can't complain and so no one really cares!

PvP on the other hand, plays against other players. People generally dislike unbalanced situations, and therefore want them changed. As fun as it is to call PvP players the vocal minority, there is still a strong playerbase that enjoys playing PvP. And the moaning etc is all in the hope that eventually we will get listened to and some needed changes will take place.

It's ok, you just stick your zoo :3.

Apollo Smile · May 07, 2009, 09:08 AM // 09:08

I happen to love my zoo so RED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GORED ENGINE GO you!

ZenRgy · May 07, 2009, 09:18 AM // 09:18

Are you planning to finally nerf ursan?

Fril Estelin · May 07, 2009, 09:37 AM // 09:37

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Originally Posted by FengShuiDove

PvP is the heart of this game?

Regina recently said in a 4th anniversary interview that PvP is only 10% of the community:
http://talkingaboutgames.com/news/in...wars-interview

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Maybe it gets constantly ignored because there's no way of pleasing the PvP crowd.

The responsibility is shared: Anet did make some terrible mistakes and didn't fix some clearly bugged skills, BUT the PvP community acts with a lot of immaturity and arrogance as a whole (sometimes it feels as if they're continuing their PvP games in the forums, I mean, you have to win an argument right?). The nicest PvP players can mostly be found in game, not on Guru (although it's how I met one

).

Nevertheless, in her recent interview on the 4th anniversary event on the Sanitarium radio, Linsey said that they want to maintain a "critical mass" for PvP.

KiLLi4N · May 07, 2009, 09:37 AM // 09:37

Hope theyll finally do sth with spawning power...

cloud4905 · May 07, 2009, 10:29 AM // 10:29

Regina,

Maybe you could ask the update team to be less lazy this time and make the pvp/pve changes different. Seeing the "balance team" make the exact same changes to the exact same skills 2 months straight for pvp and pve is pretty disheartening.

Nereyda Shoaal · May 07, 2009, 10:32 AM // 10:32

OMG OMG!!! SKILL UPDATE IS NOT TODAY... OMG ANET LOSERS
WE HAVE TO WAIT 7 MORE DAYS... Arrrghghhh...... IT'S end of the world I'm telling ya!!!!!!!111111111

rofl @ the idiots
The ammount of crap you throw at anet is just unbelievable. I hope all of you get 1k perma ping in PvP for the next 6 months

Jaran Cell · May 07, 2009, 11:13 AM // 11:13

PvP doesn't have even close to the importance it had when the game was new.
I'm a PvP:er myself but some of you guys have to realise you'r not daddys favorite girl anymore.

Want a hug?

NARCHY · May 07, 2009, 11:17 AM // 11:17

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Originally Posted by Nereida Shoal

OMG OMG!!! SKILL UPDATE IS NOT TODAY... OMG ANET LOSERS
WE HAVE TO WAIT 7 MORE DAYS... Arrrghghhh...... IT'S end of the world I'm telling ya!!!!!!!111111111

rofl @ the idiots
The ammount of crap you throw at anet is just unbelievable. I hope all of you get 1k perma ping in PvP for the next 6 months

What you dont understand is that this update is vital for a good pvp. What are you interested in ? DoA ? right, imagine they close DoA during 2 months, u cant access it unless u got lucky but it only happens 1 time per week. Then you will understand pvpers. Got it? They need this update TO BE ABLE TO PLAY the game they like.

So plz, dont call us idiots, u look even more pathetic than the whinners.

Zahr Dalsk · May 07, 2009, 11:19 AM // 11:19

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Originally Posted by aapo

If I was the guy working at ANET, I wouldn't spend a minute to help this pitiful community.

If I was a disgruntled customer, I wouldn't buy their pitiful sequel. Nor would all the other disgruntled customers.